Would you pay €25,000 for a basic trim Fiat 500e?

Fiat has finally revealed the all-new Fiat 500. It was supposed to be the protagonist in Geneva motor show, but the Covid-19 outbreak ruined the plans. The company decided to present its new big seller in Milan right before Italy set to quarantine whole of Lombardy. Based on the first official price and in my own calculations, the cheapest version of the Fiat 500e could worth around €25,000. Would you pay this amount?

The version we saw was the fully equipped limited launch edition called “La Prima”, which is of course powered by an electric engine with a range of 320 km up to 400 km. The price? 37,900 euro. Following the case of the Alfa Romeo Giulia, whose top version Quadrifoglio was the first to be revealed, Fiat is expected to show the regular and cheaper versions in the coming months, after the pandemic is controlled.

However, the new Fiat 500 will respect the current positioning of the model, which is a semi-premium unique and exclusive city-car full of personality. It means that the higher price compared to its rivals will continue to be one of its attributes. Consequently, the entry-level versions of the new 500 are not expected to be affordable. On the contrary, they may be quite expensive.

If we assume a eco-incentive of €4,000 for a car like this, then the final price of the launch edition would be $33,900. Based on this amount, I tried to calculate and estimate the price for the entry-level version. First, I took the price gap of existing electric small cars like the Smart Fortwo, Volkswagen Up, Peugeot e-208, with their petrol/diesel counterparts. The difference is abysmal (see chart).

In the worst of the cases, an entry-level Fiat 500e would cost around €29,000 if we apply the current price structure of the Fiat 500, and based on the launch edition net price after incentives.

In addition, I also considered the price gap there is between the top of range gasoline Fiat 500 and the basic one. The current retail prices for Italy indicate that there are €4,400 of difference between them (excluding the Abarth 500). Therefore, in the worst of the cases, an entry-level Fiat 500e would cost around €29,000 if we apply the current price structure of the Fiat 500, and based on the launch edition net price after incentives.

The retail price would decrease by analyzing the price gap between the current top version of the Fiat 500 gasoline and the new Fiat 500e La Prima. The latter is 98% more expensive than the former. If we apply the same gap to the basic version of the gasoline 500, the electric counterpart would be priced at €27,200. And in the best of the case, if the incentive is not €4,000 but €6,000, we would have a final price of something around €25,000 for the cheapest electric Fiat 500.

This scenario leads to the question: would the consumers pay €25,000 for an electric Fiat 500? Is these price range helpful to achieve the sales target of 80,000 units per year? I’m afraid not, and as I wrote some months ago, I think that this time the price strategy and positioning of the car won’t work as good as it does in the gasoline segment.

88% of the 500 (Fiat & Abarth) registrations in Europe had prices between €13,000 and €22,000. It won’t be easy to meet the 500e sales target if its entry price is €25,000. The challenge for Fiat is to keep enchanting the consumers even with a higher price.

Last year, 68% of the Fiat/Abarth 500 registrations in Italy had prices between €15,000 and €17,000. The cheapest versions counted for 16% of the volume, while those priced above €17,000 made up 16% too. Moreover, the most expensive Abarth 500 with prices above €25,000 represented 5% of the demand. In fact, if we exclude the Fiat 500 and focus only on the Abarth, 56% of its demand corresponded to the models with prices between €19,000 and €25,000.

Certainly, we can’t compare the electric Fiat 500 and the petrol addicted Abarth 500. They target two opposite consumers. However, the Abarth sales levels are a good indicator of how far the Fiat 500 model can go in terms of price. It is for sure a beautiful “toy” to drive, but there’s a limit, especially when you are not alone in the market as the Abarth is.

Competition is tough

One of the main challenges of a more expensive Fiat 500 is that it will enter other segments where the icon model hasn’t been before. The estimated price range of €25,000-€33,900 would place the electric 500 in the fields of petrol/diesel compact hatchbacks and C-SUVs, but most importantly at the same price level of other electric cars that are set to play an important role in the automotive electrification in Europe.

The new Fiat 500e is due to rival with upper versions of the Smart Fortwo, all versions of the Opel Corsa-e, mid-versions of the Renault Zoe, and entry versions of the Peugeot 208-e and Volkswagen e-Golf. The Volkswagen ID3 entry price is around €30,000

Firstly, it would have to face the competition from mid/fully equipped versions of the electric Smart Fortwo and Renault Zoe, and the entry versions of Opel Corsa-e and Peugeot 208-e, and Volkswagen e-Golf and Mini Hatch. Once again, as it happens in the ICE world, consumers would have to choose between functionality and personality.

However, the main strength of the 500, which has granted its success all these years, is not a strong attribute in this price range. The shift from ICE to electric must ensure the consumers their capacity to drive long distances without any worry, and design/exclusivity/personality would come at a second or third place. I mean, the attributes that helped the ICE 500 to succeed may not work in the electric car segment.

17 thoughts on “Would you pay €25,000 for a basic trim Fiat 500e?

  1. “The shift from ICE to electric must ensure the consumers their capacity to drive long distances without any worry, and design/exclusivity/personality would come at a second or third place.” This may be true for some cars but not for a city car because they already have long enough range. The 500e is not pretending to be what it is not, it is not a Fiat ID 3, it offers a distinctive look and heritage, premium quality (I hope) and the possibility of an open air driving experience. It cost the same as both the Honda and the Mini so it is correctly priced only that electric cars are expensive, take it or leave it. Will they sell 80.000? I do not know, but I have no doubt that it would be my choice it I were in the market for a city car.

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  2. Oh dear. The Punto was Fiat’s biggest seller once, but was allowed to die and not be replaced.
    Then the 2007 500 became Fiat’s biggest seller outside Italy, and this overpriced electric car is the long awaited replacement? Who will have that money, especially in the ruined post-Covid 19 economies of Italy and Europe? If people really want an electric car, they might be more tempted by the much cheaper Dacia Spring (if that will be its name) in 2021.
    Is this another nail in Fiat’s coffin unfortunately? I also notice the lack of Fiat badges on the new car compared to the current ICE model. Is Fiat ashamed of being a Fiat?

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  3. I’m so glad I have a older gasoline powered Fiat 500. In my opinion, this new electric one has been ruined. I particularly hate the interior compared to the previous one.

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  5. I like the previous generation gasoline powered Fiat 500 thousands of times more than this new one. In my opinion, this Current electric third generation 500 is totally ruined. I especially cannot stand the interior compared to the older one. It has nowhere near the unique character of the older one. I’m so glad I own a petrol powered 2017 Fiat 500. I knew ,eventually, even the Fiat 500 would be ruined. It’s going the same direction as everything else on the road today , a bigger, more bloated mess, loaded with sophistication and unnecessary tech crap. No thanks.

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    • Not really. I see no changes: AR is even in a worse situation than a year ago. Lancia just makes silly announcements. And Fiat has nothing planned this year, except for timid restylings.

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      • I will teach you a portuguese saying…it will be easy for you to understand…. “Roma e Pavia não se fizeram num dia”… the same goes for Stellantis.

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  10. Fiat 500 ha vissuto un mese di aprile sicuramente positivo. Nei giorni scorsi vi abbiamo rivelato che secondo i dati ufficiali di vendita la city car elettrica al 100 per cento della casa italiana è risultata essere la vettura più venduta in Francia e in Italia ed una delle più vendute in Europa. Oggi vi segnaliamo anche che il mese scorso la 500 è stata la BEV più venduta in assoluto in Germania.

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